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March 08, 2004

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Russell

Pardon the ignorant comments of an undergraduate.

First, perhaps it's just a typo on your part, but the word in question is pandescender, not pancondescender.

Second, there seems to be some confusion about the exact form of this new word. I could only find this page where Mickey Kaus uses the word, and it seems to be as a noun, meaning that "pandescenderer" might be illformed (as illformed as such new words can be, anyway). If this is the case, I'm not sure that you need to call this infixation. I think it patterns like such lovely words as

abs(olute(ly)) + (pos)itively = absitively
(Because there is no form *absitive or I take it that the -ly is not part of an adj->adv derivation)
Or the just-made
gnar(ly) + (ra)dical = gnardical (this also reduces the confusion caused by having both elements take -ly endings)

Then we would have

pan(der(er)) + (con)descender = pandescender.

You could still reanalyze it as infixation, but because I haven't seen the verb "pandescend," it seems less desirable, to me anyway.

OTOH, if pandescenderer is grammatical, then infixation looks much better.

Semantic Compositions

First, thanks for catching my typo. I wrote it correctly in the first place after I pasted in the quote, but did it incorrectly thereafter. Since it didn't change the nature of the analysis all that much (although I don't have a story about what happens to the "con"), I've edited the typo and given notice.

As for the usage: I didn't actually check Mickey Kaus' writing; I just went off of Andrew Sullivan's reporting of it. Since he wrote the word in question as "pandescenderer" and used it as a noun in the title of the article (it doesn't even actually appear in the body), but just wrote "pandescender" in the article itself, I assumed that the "one -er" form was a verb, and the "two -er" form was thus a derived noun.

If Sullivan has indeed misreported Kaus' usage, then your analysis is, of course, correct -- and no infixation needs to be stipulated. I think that I've got the facts right within the context of Sullivan's article alone, but then again, this wouldn't be the first time I've stolen a base for the sake of trying to be funny.

NW

I'd guess one or the other of them just got confused about nouns and verbs and it didn't occur to them there were two -er morphemes to think about. Having coined pandescend verb and/or pandescender agent noun, they notice that the latter contains pander and therefore looks like a blend so might be the verb. You and I would have to decide which it was; a non-linguist wouldn't.

Or possibly it's a reanalysis of pan- as a universal -- all-pandering --, so you omit the less important of two prefixes when you combine them.

Cristi

i learned that words were infixed after the strongest syllable in the surrounding word. my professor's example was "missi-fucking-ssippi", so 'moimprecatebilize' works, (though i'm kind of partial to 'immobilizeprecate').

PlacidPundit

My problem is that, upon seeing "pandescender" in print, I parse it as pan (all) descender (one who descends) and immediately picture someone who is willing to descend in any situation.

Лингвистический портал

You are absolutely right about the "pandescender". And according to Google "pandescenderer" has grown even more popular than "pandescender". I wonder why.

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